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Does Lingerie Football League feature real athletes?

posted by Women in Sport International
Thursday, April 14, 2011 at 7:33pm EDT

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A few days ago this blog addressed the announcement that the Lingerie Football League was expanding to Toronto this coming fall, followed by more Canadian teams in 2012. There has been mixed reaction in Canada following the announcement but one point of view that I think is particularly interesting is that of the LFL players.

Why would anyone agree to play such a physical, dangerous sport- such as football- in their underwear?

The Toronto Star interviewed current LFL player Torkwase Fraser, who played last year with the San Diego Seduction. The Toronto native stated that “When you go and watch the sport you see serious athletes playing football.” I am not doubting the athleticism of the league, I have seen the videos. These women have serious talent. But why play a "professional sport" in your knickers when you are only being compensated by having your travel paid for and "sometimes" receiving a "portion" of ticket sales. This seems like a tough, and dangerous, life.

Nicole Neverson, a university professor at Ryerson stated that the sport objectifies women, exploits its unpaid athletes and is yet another example of the “sports media complex,” which reinforces gender stereotypes constructed around heterosexual male desires. She notes that the women are certainly athletic, but that that is certainly not the focus of the league.

Torkwase Fraser disagreed with people like Professor Neverson in the Toronto Star article. She says it’s her choice to show her skin and she joined the league to show off her skills to a stadium audience and challenge herself physically. Almost all the women have played at least U.S. college-level sports, she said.

“There’s a lot of women football teams, but we’re the only ones that get paid for it,” she said, citing the travel expense coverage and fluctuating game-by-game stipend from ticket sales. Fraser also indicated that she hoped the exposure might help her broadcast career.

So what did Fraser think about playing in her underwear?? She stated that it was not much different than the two piece sprinting garb she wore at track-and-field meets, except due to the physical nature " obviously there’s going to be some wardrobe malfunctions.”
Personally, I feel that the women in the LFL are professional level athletes that are frustrated that they cannot make money being an athlete through any other league. The LFL has realized that there are literally thousands of former college athletes that have no hopes of playing professional sports- as they do not exist (other then the WNBA and Softball).

There are several graduates of NCAA hockey, for example, that come to Canada every year to play in the competitive ladies leagues here, because they are the highest level available in the world. These athletes are not paid. They often cannot work in Canada as they cannot get work visas. They thus live in free accommodations with friends and family. All because there is no place they can go and get paid for putting their athletic talents to good use.

I think the LFL is realizing and taking advantage of how desperate these female athletes are to have an opportunity to play professional sports.

What do you think??

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kaytbates says:

If they wanted to make money and play football, there are definitely other leagues they could play in and get paid. The Women's Football Alliance has over 60 teams across the country, and they paid their athletes to play, and not trapse around in their underwear. All this league provides is a legal peep show for the men who frequent these games.

Check out the Women's Football Alliance at http://www.wfafootball.com/

Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:39pm EDT

WISIBlog says:

Kaytbates, thank you so much for your comments above. I was completely ignorant of the existence of the WFA. I have highlighted the Women's Football Alliance and a smaller league in Canada- the WWCFL- on my blog. These leagues are much better alternatives to the LFL and anything I can do to spread the word about these leagues I would be more than happy to do. http://womeninsportinternational.blogspot.com/2011/04/womens-football-alliance-and-wwcfl-real.html

Monday, April 18, 2011 at 12:27pm EDT

Jewell06 says:

These women are an embarrassment to themselves, women, and real women athletes who try so hard every day to make sports their career. Parading around half naked,as a circus show for pro.s.tituion is no way to carry yourself as a formidable player less yet a serious athlete. This whole show is a mockery to women and a disgrace to society. I guess the men loves it though!

Monday, April 18, 2011 at 6:24pm EDT

thruthetrees says:

I say until one has actually been to a game,one shouldn't judge it. Sort of like provocative art- if you haven't seen it, read the book, or listened to the song, how can you denigrate it?
Sure, they are dressed skimpily, but they do wear more than most beach volleyball players wear and their outfits aren't any more revealing than Serena William's...
I live in FL and had never heard of the WFA until they were mentioned in this topic, like the writer, and would love to support them, too. I just am shocked as to how many women hate the LFL without ever experiencing it. Are we that closed-minded?

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 3:08pm EDT

punkin says:

I agree with thruthetreea. I resent the insecure remarks made by Jewell06. My daughter just made the cut for an LFL team. My daughter is college educated and a very responsible and outstanding young woman that I am very proud of. How dare you make a reference to prostitution! People like you try to degrade beautiful, sexy women because of your insecurities. I support my daughter 100% because she is smart, beautiful, athletic. Your comments are the embarressment here.

Saturday, June 11, 2011 at 2:03am EDT

anemov6 says:

I agree with Jewell06 these girls are prostituting themselves, the men and women in my office hold the same opinion (the men believe since the girls are not paid that this is how they get their high end client list started). The purpose is for the girls to sexually expose each other while they play and make it look like an accident. This should not be the face of women's sports.

Sunday, June 12, 2011 at 9:21am EDT

sportsfan says:

punkin, did you read your daughter's contract? It states that the women cannot wear ANYTHING under their "uniform" and that the women understand that this can result in nudity and they CONSENT to appear nude in public. Your daughter is being paid money to sexually arouse men. What would you call it? I feel the same way about the LFL players as I do about the "beautiful, sexy women" in the sport of pole dancing. However, pole dancers don't risk having their clothing ripped off in the course of doing their job.

One can be beautiful and sexy while clothed.

Sunday, June 12, 2011 at 10:47pm EDT

BBrothers says:

I have to laugh at these posts saying the LFL players are prostituting themselves. A person would think that in a blog like this women participating in what could be called an emerging sport would be seen as a positive development. Instead we have all of these people making what appears to be moral judgements on these women.

Just because there is a very vocal segment of women voicing their displeasure about the LFL doesn't mean the sport isn't valid. It just means they don't like it and it doesn't "fit" with their vision of women's sports. That's too bad. They don't have to like it, watch it, play it or support it if they don't want to.

There are many "approved" women's sports that are much less competitive, athletic and interesting than the LFL, so do us all a favor and keep narrow minded judgements to yourselves. These women have every bit the right to participate in this activity if they want without being denigrated by you people.

Monday, June 13, 2011 at 9:10am EDT

anemov6 says:

BBrothers as a previous poster stated having your clothes torn off while playing a "sport" in the presence of kids as well as men would be considered denigrating to the "women" not the opponents of this sex show. I think some women are so used to women being shown as sex objects they no longer think for themselves or for their daughters they think the way men trained them to think "Be a good little girl and strip for me then i'll pay attention to you honey". I am glad almost everyone here clearly sees this for what it is prostitution.

Monday, June 13, 2011 at 11:20am EDT

thruthetrees says:

Wow- being naked in front of men = prostitution? I would say that marriage is closer to prostitution than the LFL - especially one in which one of the partners stays home while the other works. Using that argument, then all the folks who go to nudist camps must be whores, too.
I am glad that the dialog is here- I would probably never have heard of the WFA... but I do wish that there was a lot less judgment on the site.
I was with a bunch of women yesterday, playing volleyball, and not one of them could understand why I am a fan of MMA. They think it's all about violence and bloody. And I have to admit- there can be a lot of blood. But does the blood make it barbaric? Where is the line?

Monday, June 13, 2011 at 1:59pm EDT

BBrothers says:

anemov6 - actually I didn't say that. I suggest you re-read my comment. I will add that the LFL is a professional sport. The only "kids" attending would have to pay to get in so either they have their own money and made a choice how to spend it or their parents paid their way. You sound like a gender feminist which is fine but just because you have certain beliefs doesn't mean that women involved in the LFL are prostitutes because they don't believe in or follow your dogma.

Your willingness to make the huge leap of logic that only women that "don't think for themselves" would be involved in the LFL is laughable. Did it ever cross your mind that there are women that don't care what you think about their choices and participate in the LFL for their own personal reasons which I would add you have no right to project your personal values upon? Think about it.

Tuesday, June 14, 2011 at 9:27am EDT

anemov6 says:

When it comes right down to it this is about equality men are never asked to wear next to nothing or nothing at all to play sports, so why is it always women that are asked to do such things? BBrothers and truthetrees it was pointed out to me that you may be under the impression I am attacking your sexuality because you like this sort of thing, if this is the case I do apologize, that was not my intention at all. The prostitution comment came from the fact that breasts, buttocks and even vagina's are exposed during "play" and the women are fined $5000 if they don't finish the season and are also fined $500 if they wear anything under their underwear they practice on their own time and their own dime as a player stated. Prostitution is exploitation these girls are not even paid.

Tuesday, June 14, 2011 at 5:46pm EDT

BBrothers says:

I don't take your comments personally. I also don't "like" the LFL or think much of it as a sport, but I do think the women are athletes and have the right to play if they want to without being unfairly characterized. They are adults who I'm sure have weighed the pros and cons of entering into a contract and have decided to participate. I'm sure there are many different individual reasons they each play, all of which are valid for them personally.

I have not heard about any massive "exposure issues" with the LFL and I'm sure if there was a lot of it going on it would be getting publicity. The LFL is a sport and a business and the participants are expected to follow guidelines and rules. If they don't like them they don't have to play. They aren't prostitutes or victims. No one is forcing these women to do this. They want to. You folks might not like that fact but that's too bad. It's not your life, it's theirs.

As far as equality goes men wear next to nothing in many sports including swimming, diving, beach volleyball, boxing and MMA and there are a certain number of women who watch these sports for reasons other than observing the competition, if you understand my meaning.

Your opinion that these participants are being exploited is just that, an opinion. You're certainly entitled to it, but its pretty clear you have an agenda other than letting these ladies participate voluntarily in a sport they want to be involved in.

Tuesday, June 14, 2011 at 7:04pm EDT

thruthetrees says:

anemov6 said "BBrothers and truthetrees it was pointed out to me that you may be under the impression I am attacking your sexuality because you like this sort of thing, if this is the case I do apologize, that was not my intention at all."

No, I didn't feel like you were attacking my sexuality, or myself, since it has nothing to do with the post or the comments. I felt like you were denigrating a choice made by some women and felt the need to explain a different point of view.

Morês and morals are a tricky thing- one person's idea of right can be very different from another person's. It just bothered me that some of the readers were ruling something out without giving it a shot. If you don't like seeing half-naked girls play some awesome arena football- don't watch it. But calling what they do prostitution seems a bit harsh.

I have been to quite a few games and never seen a vagina exposed. That would take a combination of mishaps and contortion.
Hyperbole is one thing but alarmist statements are another.

I view the LFL as the "All-American Girls Professional Baseball League" a la "A League of Their Own"- they had to play ball in risque outfits and deal with all of these accusations, as well. Now, we look at those women as pioneers and heroines. Will the LFL be remembered for more than a sideshow, I don't know. But I do know the athletes play with heart, skill, and do it for the love, certainly not the money.

Tuesday, June 14, 2011 at 7:44pm EDT

MarQFPR says:

I know that MMA Fighter Kelly Kobold is now apart of the league playing for the Minneapolis team. I think it's the idea of being on national tv more than money. We haven't seen any female football leagues besides them get that. Unless there is an official women's sports network or one of the major women's networks deciding to do sports, I don't think we will see regular women's football games on national tv.

Tuesday, June 14, 2011 at 9:32pm EDT

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